Damn, I should have gone earlier. I got only 2 hours out of it on a 6.5 and then it dropped too low even for a 7.5. Thing is I was scared of the cold when I shouldn't have because my multi layered system is soo toasty /if I don't fall too often/, the neck is the only weak spot and it lets in too much water when I dive. Changing inside my business /personal car without making a mess was quite an achievement . Well, I had my sailing day this week and I hope there are many more before the lakes freeze. Not surprisingly I was the only soul out there!